On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 09:27 -0800, Ajay Sharma wrote:

Craig White wrote:

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How do I get this set up?

spamassassin -D --lint

shows me an error...

debug: bayes: no dbs present, cannot tie DB R/O: /root/.spamassassin/bayes_toks

and with no db present, it doesn't learn.

Is there something simple that I'm missing?

Just a shot in the dark, does the directory, "/root/.spamassassin/" exist? And if so, is it writable?

---- # ls -ld /root/.spamassassin/ drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Mar 31 10:04 /root/.spamassassin/ # ls -l /root/.spamassassin/ total 12 -rw------- 1 root root 12288 Mar 31 10:04 auto-whitelist -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1165 Mar 25 17:55 user_prefs

yes and yes - spamassassin is running as root (not sure of the wisdom of that but I haven't changed it)...

# ps aux|grep spam root 20711 0.0 0.0 26672 132 ? S Mar25 0:00 /usr/bin/spamd -d -c -m5 -H root 20714 0.0 0.0 26672 132 ? S Mar25 0:00 spamd child root 20715 0.0 0.0 26672 132 ? S Mar25 0:00 spamd child root 20716 0.0 0.0 26672 136 ? S Mar25 0:00 spamd child root 20717 0.0 0.0 26672 156 ? S Mar25 0:00 spamd child root 20718 0.0 0.0 26672 168 ? S Mar25 0:00 spamd child root 32312 0.0 0.0 3856 576 pts/0 S 10:32 0:00 grep spam

Craig

On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 12:16 -0600, Aleksandar Milivojevic wrote:

Craig White wrote:

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How do I get this set up?

spamassassin -D --lint

shows me an error...

debug: bayes: no dbs present, cannot tie DB R/O: /root/.spamassassin/bayes_toks

and with no db present, it doesn't learn.

Is there something simple that I'm missing?

[also related to your reply to Ajay's mail]

If spamd is running as root, and you want to use spamd, than you should use spamc utility to connect to it. spamassassin is stand-alone, it doesn't utilize spamd. If spamd is running as root, it will assume identity of connecting user (the one who run spamc utility).

Now, do you want to have per-user bayes databases, or one global database? Do you connect to spamd as user or from some daemon, and does that daemon uses smapd or has copy its own copy of spamassassin (like mimedefang)?

I'm affraid you'll have to give much more details...

---- OK - perhaps my question should have been directed to 'MailScanner' list

My usage is for company owned/operated mail servers and my specialty is 5 - 50 users on the network

Thus, I am thinking that it should be a global database

I am using MailScanner and it seems to be the 'caller' of spamassassin. Spamassassin evaluates and scores the incoming mails and MailScanner appropriately tags the header and sieve will direct the 5+ scores into the users SPAM folder.

Craig

On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 08:35 -0600, Aleksandar Milivojevic wrote:

Craig White wrote:

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OK - perhaps my question should have been directed to 'MailScanner' list

My usage is for company owned/operated mail servers and my specialty is 5 - 50 users on the network

Thus, I am thinking that it should be a global database

I am using MailScanner and it seems to be the 'caller' of spamassassin. Spamassassin evaluates and scores the incoming mails and MailScanner appropriately tags the header and sieve will direct the 5+ scores into the users SPAM folder.

Would love to help you there, but my scanner of choice is MIMEDefang, and I don't know exactly how MailScanner is using SpamAssassin. For example, MIMEDefang uses its own configuration file for SpamAssassin (not default one) called sa-mimedefang.cf. In that file to use system wide autowhitelisting and bayes, one would place something along the lines:

#Enable AWL use_auto_whitelist 1 auto_whitelist_path /var/spool/MIMEDefang/mimedefang-autowhitelist auto_whitelist_file_mode 0640

#Enable Bayes use_bayes 1 use_bayes_rules 1 bayes_path /var/spool/MIMEDefang/mimedefang-bayes bayes_file_mode 0640 bayes_auto_learn 1 bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam 0.0 bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 15.0

I know this is example how to get it working in something completely different, but hopefully it might provide some ideas to solve problem in your case too. As you said, MailScanner list might give you more usefull answers...

---- Yeah - I'm an idiot -

from /etc/MailScanner/spam.assassin.prefs.conf

# =============== MailScanner: spam.assassin.prefs.conf =============== # Version 2.13.1

# SpamAssassin preferences for MailScanner users should be placed in # this file to avoid being overwritten by a SpamAssassin upgrade. # For a complete listing of configurable parameters, please see:

# http://www.spamassassin.org/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html

# =============== SpamAssassin Preferences =============== # # the file installed by SpamAssassin:

# /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf

# Should be disabled # typically use these commands:

# mv /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf \ # /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf.saved

# When running SpamAssassin or sa-learn from the command line, # or a script, you should always specify that SpamAssassin use # this file to load SpamAssassin preferences, i.e:

# sa-learn --ham -p /etc/MailScanner/spam.assassin.prefs.conf \ # --mbox ham_mbox

# spamassassin -D -p etc/MailScanner/spam.assassin.prefs.conf \ # --lint

---- duh - so it has been working but I couldn't tell because when I tested from command line, it went to non-operative local.cf file.

what I did discover and will report for those who might follow in my tracks...

I updated to Dag's version of spamassassin, installed spamassassin-tools (installed some spamassassin plugins that were used by MailScanner)

I moved /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf to /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf.saved #finally decided to RTFM

set path for bayes in /etc/MailScanner/spam.assassin.prefs.conf bayes_path /etc/MailScanner/bayes/bayes

downloaded starter bayes for SA 3.0 from SFL... http://www.fsl.com/support/bayes-Linux-SA-3.0-starter-db.tar.gz

untarred it in /etc/MailScanner/bayes

restarted MailScanner and was good to go.

More to follow

Thanks

Craig