I have an old server (old hardware) that's been running 6.4 with kernel 2.6.32-279.19.1.el6.i686, no problem. Except, any kernel update after that causes it not to boot anymore. All I get is a blinking cursor on the screen, nothing else.
Is this the end of this hardware, no more kernel updates after this?
For reference, these are all the options that kernel is booting up with (lines wrapped on purpose):
title CentOS (2.6.32-279.19.1.el6.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-279.19.1.el6.i686 ro \ root=UUID=3f79e6b6-7845-499f-b708-aef782602673 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_LVM \ rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 \ KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us noapic apm=off ide=nodma acpi=off \ crashkernel=auto rhgb quiet selinux=0 initrd /boot/initramfs-2.6.32-279.19.1.el6.i686.img
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
I have an old server (old hardware) that's been running 6.4 with kernel 2.6.32-279.19.1.el6.i686, no problem. Except, any kernel update after that causes it not to boot anymore. All I get is a blinking cursor on the screen, nothing else.
Is this the end of this hardware, no more kernel updates after this?
I *think* I remember that i386 hardware's no longer going to be supported, but I thought that was with a 3.x kernel. I could well be wrong.
Do you see the grub line on reboot? If so, delete rhgb and quiet (I hate them, but they're ok for someone who has no clue...), and see what's happening.
mark
Thanks for the suggestion Mark. So, I can only read so fast, but a bunch of stuff flies by then it stops at the following:
*Switching to clocksource tsc*
And a good while later, this line pops up:
*IPMI BT: timeout in WR_CONSUME [ B_BUSY H_BUSY OEM0 SMS B2H H2B ] 1 retries left*
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 3:22 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
I have an old server (old hardware) that's been running 6.4 with kernel 2.6.32-279.19.1.el6.i686, no problem. Except, any kernel update after that causes it not to boot anymore. All I get is a blinking cursor on the screen, nothing else.
Is this the end of this hardware, no more kernel updates after this?
I *think* I remember that i386 hardware's no longer going to be supported, but I thought that was with a 3.x kernel. I could well be wrong.
Do you see the grub line on reboot? If so, delete rhgb and quiet (I hate them, but they're ok for someone who has no clue...), and see what's happening.
mark
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Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 3:22 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
I have an old server (old hardware) that's been running 6.4 with kernel 2.6.32-279.19.1.el6.i686, no problem. Except, any kernel update after that causes it not to boot anymore. All I get is a blinking cursor on the screen, nothing else.
Is this the end of this hardware, no more kernel updates after this?
I *think* I remember that i386 hardware's no longer going to be supported, but I thought that was with a 3.x kernel. I could well be
wrong.
Do you see the grub line on reboot? If so, delete rhgb and quiet (I hate them, but they're ok for someone who has no clue...), and see what's happening.
Thanks for the suggestion Mark. So, I can only read so fast, but a bunch of stuff flies by then it stops at the following:
*Switching to clocksource tsc*
And a good while later, this line pops up:
*IPMI BT: timeout in WR_CONSUME [ B_BUSY H_BUSY OEM0 SMS B2H H2B ] 1 retries left*
Um. Er. On boot, you might check a) the BIOS, and b) if there's any option to go into the BMC (or whatever they call it), and poke around.
You don't mention what hardware it is. Googling on IPMI BT: timeout in WR_CONSUME, I found http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/servers/f/1466/t/19468209.aspx and this http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-grub/2008-09/msg00014.html, so I'd look at grub options on the kernel line.
mark
Kernel 279 runs fine with those options listed in my first e-mail. And it copies them over to any newer kernel. I'll have to tear the box open tomorrow to get details on it. It's a custom made white box, several years old, running dual Pentuim III processors.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 3:22 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
I have an old server (old hardware) that's been running 6.4 with kernel 2.6.32-279.19.1.el6.i686, no problem. Except, any kernel update after that causes it not to boot anymore. All I get is a blinking cursor on the screen, nothing else.
Is this the end of this hardware, no more kernel updates after this?
I *think* I remember that i386 hardware's no longer going to be supported, but I thought that was with a 3.x kernel. I could well be
wrong.
Do you see the grub line on reboot? If so, delete rhgb and quiet (I hate them, but they're ok for someone who has no clue...), and see what's happening.
Thanks for the suggestion Mark. So, I can only read so fast, but a bunch of stuff flies by then it stops at the following:
*Switching to clocksource tsc*
And a good while later, this line pops up:
*IPMI BT: timeout in WR_CONSUME [ B_BUSY H_BUSY OEM0 SMS B2H H2B ] 1 retries left*
Um. Er. On boot, you might check a) the BIOS, and b) if there's any option to go into the BMC (or whatever they call it), and poke around.
You don't mention what hardware it is. Googling on IPMI BT: timeout in WR_CONSUME, I found < http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/servers/f/1466/t/19468209.aspx
and this http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-grub/2008-09/msg00014.html, so I'd look at grub options on the kernel line.
mark
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On 09/19/13 18:15, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
Kernel 279 runs fine with those options listed in my first e-mail. And it copies them over to any newer kernel. I'll have to tear the box open tomorrow to get details on it. It's a custom made white box, several years old, running dual Pentuim III processors.
<snip>
Hope you didn't have to tear anything open. If you weren't aware of them, check dmidecode and install lshw.
mark
By the way, when that last line pops up, the machine is frozen solid. I have to hit the reset (or power) switch to get it back.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 3:22 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
I have an old server (old hardware) that's been running 6.4 with kernel 2.6.32-279.19.1.el6.i686, no problem. Except, any kernel update after that causes it not to boot anymore. All I get is a blinking cursor on the screen, nothing else.
Is this the end of this hardware, no more kernel updates after this?
I *think* I remember that i386 hardware's no longer going to be supported, but I thought that was with a 3.x kernel. I could well be wrong.
Do you see the grub line on reboot? If so, delete rhgb and quiet (I hate them, but they're ok for someone who has no clue...), and see what's happening.
mark
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On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 03:15:06PM -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
I have an old server (old hardware) that's been running 6.4 with kernel 2.6.32-279.19.1.el6.i686, no problem. Except, any kernel update after that causes it not to boot anymore. All I get is a blinking cursor on the screen, nothing else.
Do these processors support PAE? All EL kernels now require PAE.
Is this the end of this hardware, no more kernel updates after this?
For reference, these are all the options that kernel is booting up with (lines wrapped on purpose):
title CentOS (2.6.32-279.19.1.el6.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-279.19.1.el6.i686 ro \ root=UUID=3f79e6b6-7845-499f-b708-aef782602673 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_LVM \ rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 \ KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us noapic apm=off ide=nodma acpi=off \ crashkernel=auto rhgb quiet selinux=0 initrd /boot/initramfs-2.6.32-279.19.1.el6.i686.img _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Like I said, this is an old machine. But, this is what cpuinfo tells me:
processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 8 model name : Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping : 3 cpu MHz : 733.131 cache size : 256 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pse36 mmx fxsr sse bogomips : 1466.26 clflush size : 32 cache_alignment : 32 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 32 bits virtual power management:
processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 8 model name : Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping : 3 cpu MHz : 733.131 cache size : 256 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pse36 mmx fxsr sse bogomips : 1465.94 clflush size : 32 cache_alignment : 32 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 32 bits virtual power management:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Fred Smith fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.uswrote:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 03:15:06PM -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
I have an old server (old hardware) that's been running 6.4 with kernel 2.6.32-279.19.1.el6.i686, no problem. Except, any kernel update after
that
causes it not to boot anymore. All I get is a blinking cursor on the screen, nothing else.
Do these processors support PAE? All EL kernels now require PAE.
Is this the end of this hardware, no more kernel updates after this?
For reference, these are all the options that kernel is booting up with (lines wrapped on purpose):
title CentOS (2.6.32-279.19.1.el6.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-279.19.1.el6.i686 ro \ root=UUID=3f79e6b6-7845-499f-b708-aef782602673 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_LVM \ rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 \ KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us noapic apm=off ide=nodma acpi=off
\
crashkernel=auto rhgb quiet selinux=0 initrd /boot/initramfs-2.6.32-279.19.1.el6.i686.img
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-- ---- Fred Smith -- fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us---------------------------- Do you not know? Have you not heard? The LORD is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He will not grow tired or weary, and his understanding no one can fathom.
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On 9/19/2013 8:03 PM, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
model name : Pentium III (Coppermine) cpu MHz : 733.131
holy geez, a cell phone has more horsepower nowdays. its really not worth keeping old hardware like that running, especially if you want to run modern software.
It works for what it does. And I'm completely prepared to freeze it as far as software goes. I was just curious what may have happened after that particular version of the kernel, and whether there's something else I can do, or call it done, slap a red sticker on it that read, "DON'T EVER UPGRADE ANYMORE" and call it done.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:22 PM, John R Pierce pierce@hogranch.com wrote:
On 9/19/2013 8:03 PM, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
model name : Pentium III (Coppermine) cpu MHz : 733.131
holy geez, a cell phone has more horsepower nowdays. its really not worth keeping old hardware like that running, especially if you want to run modern software.
-- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast
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On 20 Sep 2013 04:26, "Ashley M. Kirchner" ashley@pcraft.com wrote:
It works for what it does. And I'm completely prepared to freeze it as
far
as software goes. I was just curious what may have happened after that particular version of the kernel, and whether there's something else I can do, or call it done, slap a red sticker on it that read, "DON'T EVER UPGRADE ANYMORE" and call it done.
In terms of man hour costs and sanity later on you really might want to look at an HP Microserver. It's less power to run than a coppermine for a start and with cashback you can find it for £100 or less if lucky.
On 09/19/2013 08:26 PM, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
It works for what it does. And I'm completely prepared to freeze it as far as software goes. I was just curious what may have happened after that particular version of the kernel, and whether there's something else I can do, or call it done, slap a red sticker on it that read, "DON'T EVER UPGRADE ANYMORE" and call it done.
For what it's worth, we have a single-core P3 running the latest Centos6/32 without issue. I realize that from a processing power stand point my SIP phone is probably faster, but like Ashley, it does a job and very well at that. (network monitor)
[root@edison ~]# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 7 model name : Pentium III (Katmai) stepping : 3 cpu MHz : 498.456 cache size : 512 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 mtrr pge mca cmov pse36 mmx fxsr sse up bogomips : 996.91 clflush size : 32 cache_alignment : 32 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 32 bits virtual power management:
[root@edison ~]# cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.32-358.18.1.el6.i686 (mockbuild@c6b10.bsys.dev.centos.org) (gcc version 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat 4.4.7-3) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Wed Aug 28 14:27:42 UTC 2013
On 09/24/2013 03:55 PM, Lists wrote:
On 09/19/2013 08:26 PM, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
It works for what it does. And I'm completely prepared to freeze it as far as software goes. I was just curious what may have happened after that particular version of the kernel, and whether there's something else I can do, or call it done, slap a red sticker on it that read, "DON'T EVER UPGRADE ANYMORE" and call it done.
For what it's worth, we have a single-core P3 running the latest Centos6/32 without issue. I realize that from a processing power stand point my SIP phone is probably faster, but like Ashley, it does a job and very well at that. (network monitor)
[root@edison ~]# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 7 model name : Pentium III (Katmai) stepping : 3 cpu MHz : 498.456 cache size : 512 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 mtrr pge mca cmov pse36 mmx fxsr sse up bogomips : 996.91 clflush size : 32 cache_alignment : 32 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 32 bits virtual power management:
[root@edison ~]# cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.32-358.18.1.el6.i686 (mockbuild@c6b10.bsys.dev.centos.org) (gcc version 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat 4.4.7-3) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Wed Aug 28 14:27:42 UTC 2013
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What is with people these days? Why if something works but it is old do people want to say OMG you need new hardware?
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